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Poster: Ole Uncle John Date: Oct 20, 2008 1:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Yankees still s**k

Yankee Stadium closing on the last day of regulation 8 games out...priceless.

Well done Rays.With the young talent they have NY should get used to finishing in third.

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Poster: headgdhead Date: Oct 21, 2008 11:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Yankees still s**k

Only 119 days until pitchers and catchers report for spring training.

GO RED SOX!!!

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Poster: WHARFRAT Date: Oct 20, 2008 2:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Yankees still s**k 26 times is Priceless!!!!!!!

And Masshole fans aren't as arrogant as NY fans?

Bucky Dent Priceless...
Bill Buckner Priceless...
Aaron Boone Priceless...

Listen man, Don't matter who's team wins the world series,
superbowl,nba title or stanley cup. True you feel good for a few weeks but, after that you and i, go back to being who and what we are. Your life is no better or worse because your team wins or looses. (maybe you make a few bucks along the way) It's not worth working up your blood pressure.
Now.... back to the tunes!

Oh btw, did i leave out the Fuckin' in thoose names???

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 20, 2008 2:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Yankees still s**k 26 times is Priceless!!!!!!!

Only Bucky gets the "f" with his.

Yep, it's only sports. But there are sociological studies that show cities in which sports teams win titles do in fact enjoy a rise (if brief) in good will towards one another, along with corresponding revenue pumped into local bars, restaurants, sports stores, etc. It's good for a city to win.

I only draw the line at asking taxpayers to foot the bill for rich owners who don't want to pay for building their own new stadiums and threaten to leave town otherwise (I say--let 'em go).

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Poster: WHARFRAT Date: Oct 20, 2008 3:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Yankees still s**k 26 times is Priceless!!!!!!!

Yes GC, Economically speaking it's good for the city.
But, What does it do for you personally? Makes you stay up late and gives you anxiety? Drink more beers and smoke some more? Spent more cash yourself? Rub it in someones face? AND when all is said and done, You and I, Our lives are the same. There is no change in our lives. Sure we feel good and get to gloat to thoose that opposed our teams. BTW, Sorry, i did not intend to stir crap up with my masshole line if it offended anyone. (Can't we all just get along?)

After all.........

It all rolls into one
and nothing comes for free
There's nothing you can hold
for very long
And when you hear that song
come crying like the wind
it seems like all this life
was just a dream
Stella Blue
Peace ~Wharf


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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 20, 2008 3:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Yankees still s**k 26 times is Priceless!!!!!!!

Actually, Wharf, as I argued above, and I think GC concedes, it is NOT necessarily economically beneficial. Depends on the starting point.

But, I am so frickin' confused now, who knows?

I do not buy that it benefits colleges and universities to go to the big time...ie, the $$ they make goes back into the sports system and NOT the educational system, and overall, it's a drain...

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Poster: WHARFRAT Date: Oct 20, 2008 5:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Yankees still s**k 26 times is Priceless!!!!!!!

Once again MR. Tell you are spot on.

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Poster: Ole Uncle John Date: Oct 20, 2008 11:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Yankees still team of last century

Funny but the Yankee fans I saw booing their players this year must have forgotten about all the titles won by their fathers and grandfathers Yankees, otherwise they would have been happy to rest on their laurels.

As you are.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 21, 2008 2:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Yankees still team of last century

WHARF & WT...

In total agreement. In the end, it's just games played by adults lucky enough to have the talent to play a kids' sport & make more $$$ than you and I will ever see in one lifetime.

But I am a sports fan...there's really something beautiful about seeing a skilled athlete take away a home run w/a leaping catch at the wall, etc......same way some people find ballet beautiful I guess....also can't help rooting passionately for Boston sports teams; just grew up w/it.

But yeah, I mean, you don't get much out of it beyond some bragging rights and stories to tell about where you were when, etc.

I do believe though that each sports fan has the potential to be arrogant (unless you're a Cubs fan; poor guys)...and you can find some Red Sox fans that abuse the privilege...but you must know that for most of my life I suffered terrible abuses from Yankees fans who swore the REd Sox would NEVER win a WS....(Then when they won in '04 it changed to 'it'll be another 86 years before you win again'...then after '07 it morphed into 'well, we have 26 titles'!.....so I maintain Yankees fans are the worst abusers of their own teams' success)...but RS fans, TRUE Red Sox fans....are very grateful--and humble--about the team's recent success.

Back to the music!

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Poster: Ole Uncle John Date: Oct 21, 2008 5:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Yankees still team of last century

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grateful and still in shock , yes
humble?? nah not so much among those I know.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 21, 2008 6:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Yankees still team of last century

depends on your definition of "humble", I suppose. Amazes me, though, how many Yankees fans came out of the woodwork to slam the Sox for losing game 7 to the Rays when the Yanks didn't even make the post-season at all this year.

Now THAT's arrogance.

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Poster: kochman Date: Oct 21, 2008 6:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Yankees still team of last century

Man, you are still crying grendel? Ha ha ha

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 21, 2008 6:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Yankees still team of last century

no, no, Kochman....after a great 7-game series that came up a little short, my philosophy is "nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile!" :-)

It was a fine, if not perfect season, for my Red Sox.

Sure as hell was better than finishing 3rd in the division and being a no-show in the playoffs. Hmmm....what team was it that had that fate this year? Can't recall....

This post was modified by grendelschoice on 2008-10-21 13:46:44

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Poster: kochman Date: Oct 21, 2008 11:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Yankees still team of last century

Glad I live in Tampa Bay and the Rays are a great team for me to cheer for!

I would also love to point out how HUGE this thread has gotten... that in and of itself is funny.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 23, 2008 6:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Yankees still team of last century

yes, that IS funny.

Go Phillies! (Up 1-0 today!)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 21, 2008 7:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Yankees still team of last century

I hear you; when you read or listen to some (always BASEBALL I have noticed...interesting) speak of it, as you do, you can appreciate the upside to sports.

I was just coming on a bit strong there; in my heart of hearts I think I just feel uneasy about the level to which we have taken this whole sports biz...

But I can completely immerse myself in a Joy of Mudville poem and appreciate the positives...oh yeah.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 21, 2008 7:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Yankees still team of last century

Even as I watch sports (baseball & hockey mostly; my 2 favorites) each year with devotion, I always feel a little guilty about it. I do think we as a society put too much emphasis on sports to the detriment of other pursuits (arts especially; science and math proficiency even more in school) and the pressure to win at any cost hurts kids especially. I also don't like the fact that kids are scouted as early as high school in some cases and college athletes are treated like rock stars (until they blow out an ACL and are then discarded like bad meat).

It's a conundrum for sure, but I guess I always come back because what happens "in between the lines" can be so incredible. Also, as Bob Costas so succinctly put it, it's "unscripted drama." At that bases loaded, 2-out moment with the game on the line in the bottom of the 9th...well, anything can happen and it's hard to beat genuine moments like that. (Unless it's the Dead pulling out "Box of Rain" at the end of the first set in Hampton in 1986 after a 14-year absence ;-)

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Poster: Stealz Date: Oct 20, 2008 3:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Yankees still s**k 26 times is Priceless!!!!!!!

RAH RAH RAH SIS BOOM BAH!!!


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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 20, 2008 3:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Yankees still s**k 26 times is Priceless!!!!!!!

Hey GC; you and I agree on a lot, BUT I would argue that IS sad. The "benefit thru winning" theory.

(Whoops: big edit GC: I see you referenced my comments on taxpayers...nevermind! Crap!)

As far as I know, every study that has ever been done PROVES beyond a shadow of a doubt that cities that buy into stadiums DO NOT recoup the investment over time (ie, thru financial benefits, etc.).

I'll admit that this is NOT what you were referencing (ie, the "emotional gain" via winning), but it is worth noting.

I believe that College AND the average City, would be better off without sports.

That's my story and I am sticking to it.

Fortunately, this is a music forum, and no one that posts here knows diddly about sports...

Ahem.

Go!

(you'd think I could spell, eh?)



This post was modified by William Tell on 2008-10-20 22:43:14

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Poster: Ole Uncle John Date: Oct 20, 2008 2:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Yankees still s**k

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In still simpler terms: in the last five years New York has made it to the ALCS once** and World Series 0 times.

Boston has made it to the ALCS 3 times and World Series 2 times, winning two World Championships in the process.

**greatest collapse in post season history.

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Poster: Stealz Date: Oct 20, 2008 2:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Yankees still s**k

Don't go arguing playoff appearances and titles.

I don't blame you for wanting to focus on the last 5 years while forgetting all about the previous 86 though.

My, my how Boston attitudes have changed since the turn o' the century. You guys used to be kind of adorable, what with all the losing, epic meltdowns, collapses, Hall of Fame talent equaling no results, close calls, and "there's always next year"s.

Hell, this isn't even the most impressive run in Sox history. You have to go way back to the 1910's to find that, wait...... that's it! Because it's been sooo long since you guys enjoyed real success for a sustained period of time you're all just making up for lost time by being over the top and annoyingly cocky (things you all said you hated about Yankees fans for decades, hypocrites). Got it. Congrats are in order then. Have at it and enjoy your moment. History says it won't last long but that the impending era of ineffective and fruitless baseball found in Boston will though.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 20, 2008 3:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Cardinals SUCK worse...ask SDH.

Oh yeah? Well what about the AZ Cardinals?

Hmm; okay, nevermind.

Not a baseball fan, BUT I did grow up with the A's and Giants, and happened to see some games in 72-74 when the A's had all the hipsters with odd names...Even have Juan Marichal's autograph around here somewhere (the only one I have for some strange reason).

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Poster: spring mountain high Date: Oct 20, 2008 6:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Yankees still s**k

waaaaaaaaaaaaaah...don't worry champ, there's always next year

go phils!



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